THE INTERVIEW
“The REAL Reason Trump is Rushing to Disclose UFO Files,” Dan Farah on the Danny Jones Podcast, published 4 May 2026. Watch on YouTube
What the interview is
Dan Farah is the filmmaker behind The Age of Disclosure, the documentary that put a row of named intelligence and military figures on camera saying the UAP cover-up is real. In a long interview on the Danny Jones Podcast he goes further than the film does, and shares two things he says his sources told him while he was making it. The first is a “nuclear lure”: the claim that UAP are drawn to nuclear activity, and that some programmes deliberately created controlled nuclear conditions to attract them. The second is a structural map of an alleged retrieval programme: a CIA-led “legacy program” acting as coordinator, the Air Force running logistics, private contractors doing compartmentalised engineering, and the Department of Energy supplying the classification cover.
Everything Farah reports here is secondhand. The account is recorded as evidence tier 3, the label this site uses for secondhand sourcing.
Who Dan Farah is
Farah already appears on this site. He is the co-host alongside the physicist Hal Puthoff in the roundtable listed under Sources. He is not a scientist, an intelligence officer, or a pilot. He is a documentary producer who spent years interviewing people who were those things, and The Age of Disclosure is the result.
Farah has sat across the table from a large number of insiders. He has heard things that did not make the final cut of the film, and the podcast is where some of that off-cut material comes out. Everything in it is reported through him, from sources he does not name.
The first claim, the nuclear lure
The long-running observation, well documented and not original to Farah, is that UAP show up near nuclear weapons, near nuclear-armed submarines, and near nuclear test and storage sites. The Malmstrom and other missile-base incidents of the 1960s and 1970s are the classic public examples.
Farah’s account goes further. He says insiders told him some programmes stopped treating the correlation as a curiosity and started treating it as a tool. On his telling, controlled nuclear conditions were created on purpose, as bait, to draw UAP to a location where they could be observed or studied. He also says intelligence officials brought in to review classified material for possible declassification were shown demonstrations of these attraction techniques.
The underlying correlation is real and on the public record. The deliberate-bait extension rests on Farah’s sources alone. He names no programme, no location, and no document.
The second claim, the CIA legacy programme
Farah describes an alleged retrieval and reverse-engineering effort with a specific shape:
A CIA-led “legacy program” that acted as the coordinator, what Farah calls the “quarterback” of the whole operation. The Air Force handling transport, logistics, and hangar facilities. Private defence contractors doing the actual engineering, compartmentalised so that no single contractor saw the whole picture. The Department of Energy involved because nuclear-grade classification systems were used to bury the programme inside structures the normal oversight process cannot reach.
He also tells a story about Jay Stratton, a real and named former intelligence official connected to the Pentagon’s UAP task force. On Farah’s account, Stratton tried to confront a key CIA figure about the programme and was rebuffed, the figure “slammed the door.”
In outline, this matches the structure David Grusch described under oath to Congress in 2023: a decades-long, cross-agency, contractor-held reverse-engineering programme hidden from proper oversight. What Farah adds is the org-chart detail, CIA as quarterback, DOE as the classification mechanism. The match with Grusch is not independent corroboration. Two accounts that match can both trace back to the same circle of sources, and given the size of this community, they may.
The third strand, why now
The interview’s headline is about disclosure timing, why the files are being pushed out at this particular moment. Farah’s framing is that a political window has opened and that people inside these programmes increasingly want the information out. This is editorial and political reading rather than a factual claim about hardware or programmes, and it is recorded here as part of what he said.
What the interview says
It records that Dan Farah, a filmmaker with documented access to a large number of UAP-connected insiders, is now saying on the record that his sources described a nuclear-lure capability and a CIA-coordinated legacy programme. It records that this account is broadly consistent with the Grusch congressional testimony. Jay Stratton and David Grusch are real, named, public figures connected to the Pentagon UAP effort, which is independently checkable.
What it does not show
That any UAP was ever deliberately lured with a nuclear device. The claim is attributed to Farah’s sources; he supplies no programme, location or document.
That a CIA “legacy program” exists, only that Farah’s sources say it does.
The “slammed the door” encounter between Stratton and a CIA figure. It is an anecdote Farah relates, with no documentation.
That its match with the Grusch testimony is independent corroboration. Two matching accounts can share an origin; the match records that an account is circulating in the community, not that it has been confirmed from a separate starting point.
Anything about hardware, materials, or the objects themselves that is not already covered, with firsthand sourcing, elsewhere on this site.
From the record
“quarterback” Dan Farah, on the role he says the CIA-led “legacy program” played
“slammed the door” Dan Farah, on his account of Jay Stratton’s attempt to confront a CIA figure
Where the case connects
The legacy-programme claim matches, in outline, the cross-agency reverse-engineering programme David Grusch described to the House Oversight Subcommittee on National Security in 2023. The two accounts are not established as independent; if Farah and Grusch drew from an overlapping pool of insiders, the match records a shared narrative within the community rather than separate confirmation.
The interview also leaves its own threads, stated as facts. Farah names no programme, no location and no document for either claim, so both rest on his sources. The “slammed the door” anecdote carries no documentation. Any future tranche that names a programme, surfaces a document, or produces a witness with firsthand standing on the nuclear-lure claim lands in this series when it does.
Watch the interview. Decide for yourself.
Related wiki entries
Dan Farah · Hal Puthoff · David Grusch · Jay Stratton · Legacy Program · The Age of Disclosure · Malmstrom AFB 1967 · Nuclear Interference
References and further reading
- “The REAL Reason Trump is Rushing to Disclose UFO Files,” Dan Farah, Danny Jones Podcast, 4 May 2026. youtube.com/watch?v=UpFqkpiOAMs
- The Age of Disclosure, documentary, dir. Dan Farah, 2025
- David Grusch, testimony to the House Oversight Subcommittee on National Security, 26 July 2023
- See also the Sources page on this site, where Farah appears as co-host of the Puthoff roundtable