Describes himself as the former director of the Pentagon’s AATIP (Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program); the Department of Defense has disputed that he had assigned AATIP responsibilities, and he maintains he led it. Both positions are on the record. Resigned from DoD in October 2017 over what he describes as institutional refusal to take UAP seriously. Author of Imminent (2024).
On The Diary of a CEO (31 October 2024)
- 2-hour interview with Steven Bartlett
- Discussed his resignation, the Five Observables, the Tic Tac Incident, and the Legacy Program
Career
- Director of National Programs, Special Management Staff (Pentagon)
- Ran special access programs for the White House and NSC
- Took over AATIP at OUSDI(I), the Pentagon successor program to AAWSAP at DIA
- Co-founded TTSA with Tom DeLonge and Hal Puthoff
Core claims
- “The government is in possession of material that doesn’t look like it’s made by us”
- People are on US Government medical disability from UFO encounters
- The Legacy Program predates AATIP and was “more robust and much more well funded”
- A 9/11-era resource diversion ended the Legacy Program’s heyday
- US-government suppression studies concluded disclosure would cause economic and religious crisis
Stance on NHI
Refuses to stereotype: “When you say the word aliens, you are automatically presuming that these things are from outer space. They might not be.”
On Bob Lazar
“I cannot and will not comment on Bob Lazar because I don’t know him.”
Threats / security
- Life threatened multiple times; lives in Wyoming with 6 German shepherds
- Cites David Grusch’s medical record release as illegal retaliation
Related
AATIP · AAWSAP · Legacy Program · TTSA · Five Observables · Tic Tac Incident · Gimbal Incident · Imminent